Okay so I decided that doing the battles individually was taking too long and quite frankly I was not enjoying it in any way. So now I have my list with a brief description on why this battle is here and a link to more information about it.
10. Battle of Tours
Charles the Hammer defeats the Umayyad Caliphate, mostly due to sheer luck. This stops the Muslim advance into modern day France and allows the Christian kingdoms to strengthen. Remember Charles the hammer's son Pepin the short is able to be anointed king of the Franks and Charles grandson is Charlemagne.
9. Battle of Zama
Scipio Africanus defeats Hannibal and secures victory for Rome in the second Punic war. After this Rome has no rival in Europe.
8. Battle of Huai-Hai
This battle is why Communist China wins the Chinese Civil war. Pretty simple, if this battle goes the other way we have a possible very different china and very different cold war. Also Guns and roses would have had to have a different album title for Chinese democracy.
7. Battle of Waterloo
Napoleons most famous battle. If he wasn't high on opium he might have won and a very different France. I doubt he would have been able to reconquer Europe but Europe may have looked very different.
6. Battle of Salamis
Far more important than Thermopylae as the Greeks actually win this battle and win it very decisively. The Greek fleet smashes the Persian fleet and Xerxes's army is unable to do anything in Greece as a result and retreats back to Persian territory.
5. Battle of Cannae
This battle is unique on the list as the loser is the reason why this is so important. Rome had another army smashed by Hannibal and not just smashed but destroyed the largest army Rome had ever formed. But Rome doesn't lose, any other nation would have capitulated but Rome just keeps chugging along and their Italian allies stay loyal. Hannibal has really lost the war here because if this isn't going to bring Romes allied states in Italy over to him nothing will.
4. Battle of Gaugamela
Alexander earns his title of THE Great by defeating the Persian empire led by Darius III. This is the ultimate achievement for Alexander as he will wander around the east for years after this because he is sort of crazy (okay he's just plain crazy), but after his death Persian, Egypt and all the other places he conquered up to the edges of India are divided up by his generals and remain Greek cultured empires for quite some time. Even after these kingdoms fall the Greek influence remains.
3. Battle of Badger Mouth
Probably the single most important battle most in the west have never heard of. To be fair nobody in the west would have possible heard about this for quite some time as China is considered a place of Myth in Europe until the Mongols show up. The Mongol army led by Genghis Khan handily defeats the army of Jin China, but Jin exists for some time after this and isn't completely conquered until Genghis's successor Ogedei does so 20 years later. Whats really important about Badger Mouth is that this is really the only place where someone, anyone might have turned the Mongols back, but after this they are so superior to any other opponent that nobody can come close to matching the Mongol armies.
2.Battle of Vienna
People tend to think that in 1492 Columbus opening the Americas up to Europe makes Christian Europe the dominant force in the world, but in 1683 the Ottoman Empire controlled all of south east Europe and were besieging Vienna. This is a point where Christendom in Europe is at war with itself as the protestant reformation had begun over 150 years earlier and the Muslim Ottomans took advantage of this. The only reason why Vienna doesn't fall is because the Holy Roman Empire along with the King of Poland, Catholic and protestant alike, attacked the besieging Ottoman army and relieved the city. If Vienna falls then the Ottomans have a major foothold in modern Austria and an advance into Northern Italy or Southern Germany could be on the table. Also apparently the Croissant was invented during the battle, so there was that.
1. Battle of Stalingrad
2 million casualties, that is the estimated number of casualties at the battle of Stalingrad from Soviet and axis forces. There are an estimated half a million soviet deaths in this one battle which is more than any other Allied nation has during the entire war, except for China. It is five months of nonstop fighting between the two most powerful nations in the world at this time as they trow everything they have into this one city on the Volga river. People sometimes say that Hitler had no chance to win the war against the Soviet Union, but even after failing to capture Moscow in operation Barbarossa I believe that he does if Operation Braunschweig, the plan to capture the Soviet Oil fields, can succeed.This is the battle where everything turns, after the loss at Stalingrad Germany cannot win and the Soviet Union pushes Nazi Germany out of Soviet Territory and eventually into Germany itself. Think about this, if Stalingrad falls early on or if otherwise Operation Braunschweig suceeds then Soviets lose their oil fields and all lend lease shipments have to go through Vladivostok and across Siberia. Could the Soviet Union have continued? Maybe, but its also a very real possibility that they would not have.
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10. The Battle of Tours
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| Painting of the Battle Of Tours |
Coming in at number 10 on my list we have the Battle of Tours, a Battle in Southern France that repelled the Islamic armies from what would become the Kingdom of France and paved the way for the establishment of the Carolingian dynasty who would reshape Post-Roman western Europe. If you notice in the painting Charles is defending a mother and child in an over the top and completely inaccurate portrayal of anything that happened at the battle.
Background: In 634 A.D armies of the new
religion of Islam attacked the Sassanid and Byzantine Empires who just completed a long
and intense war that had drained both empires leaving them easy prey for the
forces of Islam. By 720 the Islamic Caliphate stretched from modern India all the
way through North Africa and to southern France. The Umayyad Caliphate had invaded Iberia(Modern Spain) in 711 and by 718 they were in control of most of the Iberian Peninsula and
began pushing into the Duchy of Aquitaine, which is in modern day southern France
and at the time was still referred to as Gaul. The Duchy of Aquitaine was led
by Duke Odo who inflicted the first major defeat on the Umayyad’s Dynasty on
June 9, 721 at the Battle of Toulouse and Odo was declared a Champion of Christianity
by the Pope. However the Merovingian dynasty ruled in Gaul with the title of
King of the Franks and had fallen into Civil War after the death of
Pepin of Herstal and Duke Odo had declared his independence. So at this point Odo
is under attack from both the Umayyad’s and the Franks and so he marries his
daughter to a Muslim lord, despite Odo being a “Champion of Christianity”. Things went poorly for Odo after this, Emir Uthman ibn Naissa whom he had married his daughter to rebelled against the Umayyad's and
Odo’s forces were soundly defeated by an Umayyad army who then looked to push
further into Gaul. Odo appealed to Charles Martel, who was fighting for a claim as King of the Franks, and agreed to submit to his authority if he would help him.
The Battle: Now it’s important to understand that
despite being called the Battle of Tours, nobody actually knows exactly where
this battle took place, but most believe it was between the cities of Tours and
Poitiers. We also do not know exactly how many soldiers were on either side,
sources claim that the number of Christian troops was between 15,000 and 80,000
and the Muslim forces have been stated at between 10,000 and 80,000. Charles
Martell had picked the battle field and wanted the Muslim army under Abd
el-Rahman to attack him as he held his force in a phalanx type formation to try
and repel the Muslim heavy Cavalry. It is of note that despite the later adoption of the armored Knight into warfare, at this point Europeans had none as
they had not developed the stirrup which would allow them to travel on Horse
with heavy armor, the Muslim forces did have these armored knights with lances
and swords which they had come to rely upon. Also historians have wondered why
Rahman proceeds with so little scouting into the area and it is generally
concluded that he either did not view the Franks as a threat or did not believe
that they would come to Odo’s aid. During the battle the Muslim heavy cavalry
repeatedly charged the tightly grouped Frankish troops and were repulsed again
and again, however this tactic may have eventually worked if not for one of
those odd moments in history that shaped future world events. Charles Martel supposedly
sent scouts to raid the Muslim army’s camp in
hopes of causing chaos, but what happened went beyond his wildest dreams. The
Muslim army, just like any other invading army, had accumulated large amounts
of plunder and when word reached the men at the front that their plunder was
being seized, some ran back to the camp to stop these raiders from seizing the
new wealth that they had accumulated. But quickly more and more troops began to
do this and it soon turned into a retreat and then the Muslim army routed. It is
important to remember that during hand to hand combat like this there are not
that many casualties during the actual battle, but when one side runs away that
is when the body count starts to really accumulate. During the chaos General Abd
el-Rahman tried to stop the retreat but was surrounded and killed and the
Muslim army retreated. The Franks did not know the battle was over and they
expected that the next day the battle would resume, but the Muslim army
withdrew to the Iberian Peninsula, Charles was victorious and was given the
name Charles Martel, which means the Hammer.
Aftermath: Charles the Hammer’s son was Pippin
the Short who would become the first Carolingian King of the Franks and his son
was Charlemagne would go on to dramatically alter the face of Post- Roman Europe. Charlemagne
would establish the Holy Roman Empire, conquer and convert the Saxons and would
subdue the Lombard’s in Italy.
Importance: Now there is a very large debate
over whether this is an important battle in History and that is the main reason
why I have it so low at number 10. The debate at times seems to follow an east
and west divide, many Christian scholars believe that this saves Christianity, while many Muslim
Scholars believe that the battle was insignificant because the Umayyad’s had
already pushed as far as they were going to push into Western Europe. However the reluctance of Muslim scholar’s to admit any defeat has to be accounted for. In reference to Tours an Arabian chronicler wrote:
Musa being returned to Damascus, the Caliph Abd-el Melek
asked of him about his conquests, saying "Now tell me about these
Franks---what is their nature?"
"They," replied Musa, "are a folk right
numerous, and full of might: brave and impetuous in the attack, but cowardly
and craven in event of defeat."
"And how has passed the war betwixt them and thyself?
Favorably or the reverse?"
"The reverse? No, by Allah and the prophet!" spoke
Musa. "Never has a company from my army been beaten. And never have the Moslems
hesitated to follow me when I have led them; though they were twoscore to
fourscore."
Islamic
armies had been victorious everywhere and so many attempted to paint Tours as a
minor defeat, but downplaying the importance and scale of ones defeats or
painting them as heroic stands against impossible odds is a very common throughout
history. The reality of it, in my own humble opinion, truly lies in the middle
of these ideas, Christian Europe was not likely to be destroyed with a loss as
Tours but the Christian states warring with one another they could have pressed
the weak states in Southern Gaul and Northern Italy. However the Islamic
Caliphate had overextended itself and would soon fall into warring with one another
over succession, while it is possible that they could have pushed into Gaul and
Italy the ability to hold these areas may have proven difficult. It is also possible that even if they had
secured more of Western Europe that it may not have had a major impact on the
area, after all Muslim forces controlled various portions of Italy and raided Southern
France for several centuries after Tours. However you never truly know what may
have happened, what if a Muslim kingdom had been established in Southern Gaul?
What if France is never established as a true Kingdom?
The biggest
thing that really comes out of the battle of Tours is the rise of the
Carolingian Dynasty and what Charles Martel’s grandson Charlemagne does for
Europe. Without Charlemagne and the Carolingian dynasty Europe could have
looked very different and all of this is brought on by Charles the Hammer’s
victory at Tours. If Charles loses or is even killed at Tours then it is very
likely that his son Pippin the Short cannot depose Childeric III of
the Merovingian dynasty and become King of the Franks. The possibilities are endless which
is why the battle becomes so important even if it is unlikely that it saved
Europe from Islamic conquest.
Conclusion: So in the end Tours comes in at
number ten because it allows the Carolingians and Charlemagne to rise to power more
than because of it supposed saving of Christendom from the armies of the
prophet Muhammad. Could a victory at Tours led to a Muslim takeover of Southern
and possibly all of Gaul? Yes but it is also possible that nothing significant
would have come out of it and any gains by Abd el-Rahman would have been
temporary as the Franks would have eventually pushed his army out of Gaul.
Thursday, June 20, 2013
Top 10 battles posts will be coming
I am going to be doing a series of articles about my Top 10 battles in History and before I start I want to set up what my prerequisites are for this series. I left out a number of battles that I have seen other declare number one and I have some battles that people are possibly not familiar with. My list of top ten battles is the battles that I believe are the most important to history, as in History could have been dramatically effected by this battle. For example I did not include the Battle of Berlin because if the Soviet Union had been forced to pullback or had instead just bypassed the city, Germany would still have lost the war at that stage of the war. This will of course mean that some battle will be lower or higher than some of you might think due to the weight that I believe these battle have had on human history. I hope to have a new battle each week, but I make no guarantees and I will post some battles that did not make my Top 10, but were ones that just missed the cut. I will tell you that doing 8-10 was the hardest ones to do as I had to weigh which battles should and should not make the cut. So first up will be The Battle Of Tours 732 A.D Tours, France.
I will post it soon.
I will post it soon.
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